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I-5 question

Postby msmith3972 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:53 pm

The rating calls for specific routes for the type of aircraft:

VNY3.DAG.CRESO4 for pistons and turboprop
VNY3.DAG.KEPEC6 for RNAV jet
VNY3.DAG.CLARR3 for non-RNAV jet

I was going to fly the included cirus vision in xplane for this rating and while I can follow how I get to/from DAGGET on the piston arrival, there is no mention of the DAGGET transition on the KEPEC6 STAR. Not sure how I get from DAG to one of the published transitions? I was assuming that IFR flight planning would have a route that all connects together without any ambiguity.
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Re: I-5 question

Postby Shawn Goldsworthy » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:20 pm

The rating description is old. There is no longer a DAG transition on the KEPEC arrival. Changed months ago. Correct routing now is DAG MISEN.KEPEC6
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Re: I-5 question

Postby msmith3972 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:53 pm

Ok, great. But shouldn't we use the CLARR3 arrival then? https://skyvector.com/files/tpp/1803/pdf/00662CLARR.PDF

Seems to make sense, as DAGGET is on both charts...
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Re: I-5 question

Postby Shawn Goldsworthy » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:26 pm

If you're non RNAV equipped, by all means file the CLARR. If you're RNAV equipped file VNY3.DAG MISEN.KEPEC6 for sure.
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Re: I-5 question

Postby msmith3972 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:28 pm

Thanks, Shawn. I am doing my instrument training IRL, so I like the practice of using the VORs. :) Doing it in the 172 takes like 2 hrs tho!
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Re: I-5 question

Postby Shawn Goldsworthy » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:33 pm

Indeed it does. I've seen many people fly it in a C172 though. Makes for a long flight. Feel free to fly it using VOR's only though on the CLARR arrival.
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Re: I-5 question

Postby Keith Smith » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:00 pm

You'll be on the CRESO arrival if you're using a 172. I'll update the rating with the jet routing changes since DAG is no longer a transition on the KEPEC.
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Re: I-5 question

Postby msmith3972 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:05 pm

Wouldn't happen to know why you can't use the CRESO4 arrival? It has turbojet flight planning altitudes on it.
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