Passed the 1-9 last night
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Passed the 1-9 last night
Well, after two weeks of learning the Citation 501, going over and over all the I-9 documentation and flying online and off line I do not know how many times. I finally made the grade and passed the I-9.
Practicing consisted of 25R/25L departures and then the stated route in the I-9 and the ILS 25L approach into LAX. All as stated in the documentation and the transcripts. I did this on all on GPS and Boach5.
Well, needless to say that the fateful day I decide to take the I-9, the winds have changed, and not in my favor. I had all my departures all set up in the GPS for 25 L/R, now the active runway is 01L/R.
Back to inputting the departure in the GPS again and reading thru the departure procedures. I thought I had a game plan and contacted ATC. Now after all of that practicing, I was used to runway 25R/L and a little disoriented as to where 01L was(07 was causing me to over think where I was). With a little help from ATC, I got myself straightened out and took off 01R, which is the same departure procedure as 01L. Then I lost all control surfaces and dive bombed into the strip somewhere...not a good start. Not even enough time for a Mayday. I think I might have been maybe 1000 ft AGL...that dirt comes up fast!!
I disconnected from the network, got myself set up again for 01L departure and called it in. The active was now 19R....GEEZ, cut me a break. Got out the charts again and started all over for 19R. I got that all set up on the GPS and called it in. Double checked all systems, headings, altitudes and then checked again. This time everything went according to Hoyle and once I got on the highway I knew I was golden.
Thanks to ATC for your patience.
This one certainly took me way out of my comfort zone. All for the good.
On to I-10, oh my!
Practicing consisted of 25R/25L departures and then the stated route in the I-9 and the ILS 25L approach into LAX. All as stated in the documentation and the transcripts. I did this on all on GPS and Boach5.
Well, needless to say that the fateful day I decide to take the I-9, the winds have changed, and not in my favor. I had all my departures all set up in the GPS for 25 L/R, now the active runway is 01L/R.
Back to inputting the departure in the GPS again and reading thru the departure procedures. I thought I had a game plan and contacted ATC. Now after all of that practicing, I was used to runway 25R/L and a little disoriented as to where 01L was(07 was causing me to over think where I was). With a little help from ATC, I got myself straightened out and took off 01R, which is the same departure procedure as 01L. Then I lost all control surfaces and dive bombed into the strip somewhere...not a good start. Not even enough time for a Mayday. I think I might have been maybe 1000 ft AGL...that dirt comes up fast!!
I disconnected from the network, got myself set up again for 01L departure and called it in. The active was now 19R....GEEZ, cut me a break. Got out the charts again and started all over for 19R. I got that all set up on the GPS and called it in. Double checked all systems, headings, altitudes and then checked again. This time everything went according to Hoyle and once I got on the highway I knew I was golden.
Thanks to ATC for your patience.
This one certainly took me way out of my comfort zone. All for the good.
On to I-10, oh my!
Vincent Meier
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Re: Passed the 1-9 last night
Lost all control surfaces? That doesn't sound fun. Was it a problem with your controls, or did the simulator try and do some sort of failure thing?
Edit: Congratulations on passing, by the way.
Edit: Congratulations on passing, by the way.
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Not even sure what happened. One moment I was banking nicely towards BESSY, next thing you know I was in the dirt. It was that fast.I tried the yoke, rudders...nothing was responding!! yet they were with the pre-flight check...computers....can't get enough stress without them. I do not think it was a failure as per the sim. I have those set to always operational.Pieces wrote:Lost all control surfaces? That doesn't sound fun. Was it a problem with your controls, or did the simulator try and do some sort of failure thing?
Edit: Congratulations on passing, by the way.
And Thanks...it could have been prettier, but I will take it.
Vincent Meier
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Re: Passed the 1-9 last night
Great story, Vince. I bet it felt good passing the rating after all these troubles. Great job. Cheers, AJ
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Re: Passed the 1-9 last night
I think it should be said that you can never be to prepared for any flight.
It was my fault that I was only practicing 25L/R departures. I should have practiced each departure and setup up different scenarios to contend with.
It was good that there was runway changes, because that certainly got my "flying brain" engaged!!
It was my fault that I was only practicing 25L/R departures. I should have practiced each departure and setup up different scenarios to contend with.
It was good that there was runway changes, because that certainly got my "flying brain" engaged!!
Vincent Meier
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Re: Passed the 1-9 last night
If I might suggest a change in the line of thinking....there shouldn't really be a need to 'practice' the SID. I say that because if you fly into an airport, real world, then get assigned a SID, your first run at it is going to be the real thing. I've had this happen at KATL, KCHO, KMMU, KPHL, KJFK, KEFD. In every case other than MMU, I was single pilot, and was seeing/flying those SIDs for the first time.
A SID is just a pictorial representation of some instructions that a controller would rather not repeat every single day However, in some places, there are rather complex departure instructions (such as SMO) in lieu of a SID. You literally have no way to practice in advance.
For that reason, I would suggest the goal should be to work towards being able to see a SID for the first time, brief it, then fly it from any runway.
It's a different mindset, I think, from one where you practice and practice before flying it 'for real' in the test.
A SID is just a pictorial representation of some instructions that a controller would rather not repeat every single day However, in some places, there are rather complex departure instructions (such as SMO) in lieu of a SID. You literally have no way to practice in advance.
For that reason, I would suggest the goal should be to work towards being able to see a SID for the first time, brief it, then fly it from any runway.
It's a different mindset, I think, from one where you practice and practice before flying it 'for real' in the test.
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Re: Passed the 1-9 last night
That is a very good point Keith. I guess to further that, practicing should not be so utmost in my mind as should understanding and interpreting the SID's to the point when they become second nature to fly them from the get go.Keith Smith wrote:If I might suggest a change in the line of thinking....there shouldn't really be a need to 'practice' the SID. I say that because if you fly into an airport, real world, then get assigned a SID, your first run at it is going to be the real thing. I've had this happen at KATL, KCHO, KMMU, KPHL, KJFK, KEFD. In every case other than MMU, I was single pilot, and was seeing/flying those SIDs for the first time.
A SID is just a pictorial representation of some instructions that a controller would rather not repeat every single day However, in some places, there are rather complex departure instructions (such as SMO) in lieu of a SID. You literally have no way to practice in advance.
For that reason, I would suggest the goal should be to work towards being able to see a SID for the first time, brief it, then fly it from any runway.
It's a different mindset, I think, from one where you practice and practice before flying it 'for real' in the test.
I suppose just practicing that mindset will be more beneficial than my original line of thinking. Thanks for pointing me in that direction.
Vincent Meier
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Re: Passed the 1-9 last night
Vincent, Congrats!!Vincent Meier wrote:Well, after two weeks of learning the Citation 501, going over and over all the I-9 documentation and flying online and off line I do not know how many times. I finally made the grade and passed the I-9.
Practicing consisted of 25R/25L departures and then the stated route in the I-9 and the ILS 25L approach into LAX. All as stated in the documentation and the transcripts. I did this on all on GPS and Boach5..
This one certainly took me way out of my comfort zone. All for the good.
On to I-10, oh my!
...if you had it to do over again what plane would you fly? I don't have a jet with what I consider to be good enough avionics, thus the question
Thanks in advance for your or anyone else's speedy reply
Regards,
Chas
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Re: Passed the 1-9 last night
Chas, the specific avionics shouldn't matter a great deal. I've flown the I-9 in an F-86 Sabre with VOR/DME. If you can track a radial, then the I-9 is doable.
Re: Passed the 1-9 last night
Congrats Vince,
I, like you have been stuck on the I-8 b/c of the jet thing.....
Like you, flying only GA, I've been reluctant to tackle "the jet beast".
I'm now motivated, though I don't think I have the "stones" to try it in a F86 Sabre with only VOR/DME
I'll join you in the I-9 club soon
Great Job
I, like you have been stuck on the I-8 b/c of the jet thing.....
Like you, flying only GA, I've been reluctant to tackle "the jet beast".
I'm now motivated, though I don't think I have the "stones" to try it in a F86 Sabre with only VOR/DME
I'll join you in the I-9 club soon
Great Job
Chris Stern
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