flights outside of the coverage area

Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby Nelson L. » Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:39 am

I'm going to assume you didn't sit in front of the computer for the whole 5 and a half hours :shock: On the topic of Excel flights, is there a way to access the schedules without having an Excel User ID (seeing as I can't get into the atpexperience.net website?)? Would love to tag along without having to rely on checking the PE homepage at the right time.
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Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby Thomas_Horn » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:28 am

Thanks tshuff,

but how do you get the clearance if you start OUTSIDE and fly into LA ARTCC? There is no PE controller in - let´s say - Phoenix I guess...
Any "official" comments from the PE staff?
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Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby Nelson L. » Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:51 am

I'm in no way official, but upon entering the service area you should call the nearest center/approach controller, which can be found on charts from places like skyvector.
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Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby Peter Grey » Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:43 pm

I'm in no way official, but upon entering the service area you should call the nearest center/approach controller, which can be found on charts from places like skyvector.


This is the way to do it.
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Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby tshuff » Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:26 am

Nelson L. wrote:I'm going to assume you didn't sit in front of the computer for the whole 5 and a half hours :shock: On the topic of Excel flights, is there a way to access the schedules without having an Excel User ID (seeing as I can't get into the atpexperience.net website?)? Would love to tag along without having to rely on checking the PE homepage at the right time.


I actually did sit at the computer the whole time. I ran the flight while I was working remotely and would occasionally flip back and watch the world go by for a few minutes :).

Thomas_Horn wrote:Thanks tshuff,

but how do you get the clearance if you start OUTSIDE and fly into LA ARTCC? There is no PE controller in - let´s say - Phoenix I guess...
Any "official" comments from the PE staff?


Check the world high charts for a Los Angeles Center "postage stamp" along your route and call in about 20-30 miles prior to entering the airspace.
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Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby stevekirks » Mon Apr 06, 2015 8:26 am

If I'm flying into the PE area from just outside, like Arizona, I'll file online, get airborne then about 30 miles out, I'll call for a "pop up" IFR. Sometimes, if it's an obvious airliner route (KDEN TO KLAX) I'll file online and call LA Center like he just go the handoff from Denver Center ("United 703, FL340, smooth ride"). If the controller balks, I'll request an IFR clearance and go from there.
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Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby N2897M » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:34 pm

Peter Grey wrote:
I'm in no way official, but upon entering the service area you should call the nearest center/approach controller, which can be found on charts from places like skyvector.


This is the way to do it.


Sky Vector is great, I use it all the time with PE.
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Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby Hpeterson10579 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:38 pm

Is it still possible to start a flight outside of the coverage area into the coverage area? For example if I am starting in houston and landing in Phoenix? (Assuming one has the western coverage area) It’s good for the ending at least and one can satisfy a flight from their virtual airline... ending the flight with ATC is better than not ATC at all.... just wondering if it’s possible... thanks!
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Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby Tim Krajcar » Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:01 pm

Yes, nothing has changed in this regard, other than that you will be disconnected if flying in a PE-covered area that you are not subscribed to. Areas with no PE coverage options available are not affected.
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Re: flights outside of the coverage area

Postby Hpeterson10579 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:01 pm

Thanks for the info!!!
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