“At Signature”

Re: “At Signature”

Postby kevin meyers » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:51 am

Ryan B wrote:I just say what ramp I'm on with a direction... I don't think atc knows all the fbos...

I'll say "NW parking with atis" Or "East of Ry xx"


They actually do know where the FBOs are, so feel free to use the specific names. Although the way you have been doing it works just fine too.
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Re: “At Signature”

Postby Keith Smith » Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:26 am

Ryan B wrote:I just say what ramp I'm on with a direction... I don't think atc knows all the fbos...

I'll say "NW parking with atis" Or "East of Ry xx"


As Kevin said above, we actually went to fairly great lengths to gather that data and incorporate it on the scope with the specific goal of allowing pilots to reference their desired parking spots by name.
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Re: “At Signature”

Postby punder » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:02 pm

Question along the same lines. I learned to fly at (what is now) the Aspen Flying Club, which occupies part of a large building on KAPA, and generates quite a bit of GA traffic. IIRC it's usual to start with "Centennial ground, Gobosh 123YZ at Aspen with etc. etc." Would the controller recognize the location? I've attached a jpg for reference.
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Re: “At Signature”

Postby Marcus Becker » Wed Sep 05, 2018 3:17 pm

That ramp doesn't really affect operations too much as everything east of taxiway Alpha is non-movement. If there was a bit of traffic, it could be beneficial to know specifically which ramp. However, we know where "Aspen Flying Club" ramp is.
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Re: “At Signature”

Postby punder » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:33 pm

Thanks Marcus. In real life, it is sometimes quite the madhouse. First or second busiest Class D in the US.
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Re: “At Signature”

Postby Marcus Becker » Thu Sep 06, 2018 7:55 am

I know it used to hold that designator a long time ago. I was a resident of Loveland for about 11 years. For a while, KFNL was one of the busiest non-towered airports west of the Mississippi River. It's been many years since I've lived out that way now so I'm not sure how much traffic it sees anymore.
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