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No Radar Environment

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:53 pm
by zaruthoj
I'd like to experience IFR flight in a non radar environment. Is there a good way to do this on PE? Should I just call up from a random airport and request simulated radar coverage loss?

Re: No Radar Environment

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 6:57 am
by Keith Smith
Helena is a non-radar tracon...try flying in or out of there.

Re: No Radar Environment

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:20 am
by zaruthoj
Sorry, I should have specified-- I only have the ZLA subscription. Would it work to just ask for a simulated radar failure when I call up clearance delivery?

Re: No Radar Environment

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:27 pm
by Keith Smith
Which part of the flight is the most valuable for you to experience under non-radar? If it's the assignment of a full approach vs vectors to final, that's fine, you can absolutely request that. Beyond that, I'm not sure what they'll be able to simulate for you.

Re: No Radar Environment

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:30 pm
by zaruthoj
I'd like to see what it's like to fly airways and approaches with normal position reporting.

Re: No Radar Environment

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:41 pm
by Keith Smith
Since there are no compulsory reporting points on the low enroute chart (at least none that I can see at a glance), it's somewhat of a moot point. My guess is our ZLA controllers aren't well-versed in non-radar enroute because it simply doesn't happen in our environment. You can ask for it, but I can't guarantee a particular result or level of service. Understand that it's pretty far out of the bounds of normal ops for this environment.