Commercial Ops IFR rule question.
Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:40 am
Myself along with a few others were discussing VFR rules and discussed commercial operations while flying VFR. Is there a FAR Reference pertaining to when a commercial flight is required to file IFR?. I think someone quoted part 121 yesterday.
Obviously anything flying in Class A must file and fly IFR. So the main question is,.. if an airliner with pax were to fly in anything lower than A, would they be required to still fly ifr?. Obviously weather permitted. Same question for corporate pilots flying paid customers s in say a TBM. That too would be considered commercial i guess. A few of us were discussing this yesterday and are curious from a controller's training what is required. I know lots of variables. Just the basic concept. One of the RW Pilots who was part of this discussion said this
"Its absolutely possible to conduct a "commercial" flight, in VFR and a pilot without an instrument rating ... BUT, you would have to do so during the day, in VFR conditions, and stay within 25nm of your airport. Think skydiver operations .. those guys are doing a "commercial" flight in VFR".
So that to me was a very interesting concept. So are commercial type flights filling IFR due to company policy or due to some FAA Rule? What about the TBM Driver, "Stevo"... Obviously in some of his videos he is flying VFR, but would he be required to file and fly IFR if he has a single paying pax? Cause now, he would be flying commercial? Again, less than 18000 feet.
Thanks for any input you may have on this. Inquiring minds want to know lol.
Dave.
Obviously anything flying in Class A must file and fly IFR. So the main question is,.. if an airliner with pax were to fly in anything lower than A, would they be required to still fly ifr?. Obviously weather permitted. Same question for corporate pilots flying paid customers s in say a TBM. That too would be considered commercial i guess. A few of us were discussing this yesterday and are curious from a controller's training what is required. I know lots of variables. Just the basic concept. One of the RW Pilots who was part of this discussion said this
"Its absolutely possible to conduct a "commercial" flight, in VFR and a pilot without an instrument rating ... BUT, you would have to do so during the day, in VFR conditions, and stay within 25nm of your airport. Think skydiver operations .. those guys are doing a "commercial" flight in VFR".
So that to me was a very interesting concept. So are commercial type flights filling IFR due to company policy or due to some FAA Rule? What about the TBM Driver, "Stevo"... Obviously in some of his videos he is flying VFR, but would he be required to file and fly IFR if he has a single paying pax? Cause now, he would be flying commercial? Again, less than 18000 feet.
Thanks for any input you may have on this. Inquiring minds want to know lol.
Dave.