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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby Keith Smith » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:34 am

That was just a bit of fun, not meant to detract from the value or possibility of hosting an ATC comms workshop :)

My original concern was that the current user base might not be interested in a comms course, but that a workshop would bring attention from a new client base who aren't already familiar with PE. It sounds like that concern may have not been warranted, so that's good news.
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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby jtek » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:42 am

bruce wrote:Good idea! Good basic procedure helps when things get a bit more complex.

Pet niggles....

"with you"
"climbing 2 6000" umm was that 6000 or 26,000? :lol:

from a not so perfect procedure man, but one who tries ;)


Strangely enough, the AIM recommends the "climbing to"/"descending to" phraseology. But I agree; it's problematic and I avoid it.
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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby Jeff N » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:50 am

jtek wrote:
bruce wrote:Good idea! Good basic procedure helps when things get a bit more complex.

Pet niggles....

"with you"
"climbing 2 6000" umm was that 6000 or 26,000? :lol:

from a not so perfect procedure man, but one who tries ;)


Strangely enough, the AIM recommends the "climbing to"/"descending to" phraseology. But I agree; it's problematic and I avoid it.


So just drop the "to"?

"Centurion 9356Y climbing 6000" sounds to me like I might be climbing through 6000.

Oh and for the record I vote heartily for a comms workshop.
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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby Pieces » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:52 am

I usually say "1600 climbing 4000" (one thousand six hundred, climbing four thousand). That way it is clear you're not at 4000 and climbing.
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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby jtek » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:53 am

Pieces wrote:I usually say "1600 climbing 4000" (one thousand six hundred, climbing four thousand). That way it is clear you're not at 4000 and climbing.


Exactly.
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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby Jeff N » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:05 pm

Ah, got it.

Now that I think about it, I say; "climbing through 2000 for 6000" as I doubt anyone will think I'm climbing to 46,000 in the GA planes I fly.
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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby jtek » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:42 pm

Jeff N wrote:Ah, got it.

Now that I think about it, I say; "climbing through 2000 for 6000" as I doubt anyone will think I'm climbing to 46,000 in the GA planes I fly.


And even if you were in a fancy jet, you would say "for flight level four six zero". I think I see now why the AIM has no problem recommending "for" in the phraseology. There really isn't a realistic scenario where that is going to be misunderstood.
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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby Keith Smith » Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:07 pm

I have to agree, flight levels resolve the ambiguity. I've settled on "[current altitude] climbing/descending [target altitude]" long ago.
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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby Ryan Geckler » Sat Feb 08, 2014 3:59 pm

And if someone was climing to FL460 there would be some broken regulations ;)
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Re: Upcoming workshops?

Postby Rush » Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:49 am

Any workshops coming up? Was wondering if these will start back up any time soon.
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