Alphabet Challenge Leg 9 KIFP - KTRM
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:34 pm
Pilots,
So for starters there is something awesome about calling up "Bullhead Tower" . Another fairly straightforward flight.
Lessons Learned:
Check for ODPs: I was rushing a bit, and for some reason I didn't expect "such as small airport" to have an ODP. I know that that actually is a dumb thought as the ODP is independent of the size and very DEPENDENT on the geography of the airport. And I am sure rated guys know to always pore over the takeoff minimums even if it is CAVU in the desert. And I am sure no IFR rated pilot EVER fails to do so...As for VFR me filing IFR, I guess I just had a lingering association of Departure Procedures as being kinda SIDish and biggish. Incorrect. Anyway, I got one assigned to me by clearance -which was actually nice I guess because it highlighted its existence and in theory if he hadn't mentioned it AND hadn't given me a vector, I would have been expected to fly it anyway (and I probably wouldn't have)...though I would have gone direct to the VOR so not a huge difference..
Challenge ATC So imagine my surprise at being told to fly the RWY 16 ODP out of Bullhead when the wind was out of the North at 19 G26! I didn't challenge Delivery - thinking, huh, maybe the wind has changed. And besides I wasn't expecting an ODP at all (remember) but I sure was expecting a North departure.
Maybe the wind shifted? Checked after confirming clearance. Nope. I knew I wasn't going to take a south departure with 20kt tailwind. So I told ground about the winds and he revised the clearance...I'm not EXACTLY sure how that works real world.
If Delivery gives you an ODP from a runway you DON'T end up departing on what does one do? (Peter?) Does ground/tower pass that info up the food chain to let them know you are departing north?
Anyway, ATC was just trying to do me a favor and get me out of Bullhead, there's that name again, and enroute south expeditiously, but he goofed on the winds. He immediately cleared me for a 34 departure and I told him, I'd be flying the 34 ODP-- vmc subsection - (which is essentially the same as the 16 ODP, visual subsection) as in turn back and overfly the field at 2300 enroute the VOR (if memory serves).
That was pretty much it other than I enjoyed flying the VOR RWY 30 into Cochrane as it has an arc and I love'em!
http://skyvector.com/files/tpp/1501/pdf/00529VD30.PDF
Todd
N3298S
PS What is the Official Radio name of this airport anyway? I couldn't find an Airport Diagram other than the one in the A/FD and it isn't labeled. I'm sensitive on this since calling KTOA "Zamperini Tower". Looks like KTRM gets "cochrane, thermal, or some "desert resort" or somesuch...I think I went with Cochrane on the tape...
So for starters there is something awesome about calling up "Bullhead Tower" . Another fairly straightforward flight.
Lessons Learned:
Check for ODPs: I was rushing a bit, and for some reason I didn't expect "such as small airport" to have an ODP. I know that that actually is a dumb thought as the ODP is independent of the size and very DEPENDENT on the geography of the airport. And I am sure rated guys know to always pore over the takeoff minimums even if it is CAVU in the desert. And I am sure no IFR rated pilot EVER fails to do so...As for VFR me filing IFR, I guess I just had a lingering association of Departure Procedures as being kinda SIDish and biggish. Incorrect. Anyway, I got one assigned to me by clearance -which was actually nice I guess because it highlighted its existence and in theory if he hadn't mentioned it AND hadn't given me a vector, I would have been expected to fly it anyway (and I probably wouldn't have)...though I would have gone direct to the VOR so not a huge difference..
Challenge ATC So imagine my surprise at being told to fly the RWY 16 ODP out of Bullhead when the wind was out of the North at 19 G26! I didn't challenge Delivery - thinking, huh, maybe the wind has changed. And besides I wasn't expecting an ODP at all (remember) but I sure was expecting a North departure.
Maybe the wind shifted? Checked after confirming clearance. Nope. I knew I wasn't going to take a south departure with 20kt tailwind. So I told ground about the winds and he revised the clearance...I'm not EXACTLY sure how that works real world.
If Delivery gives you an ODP from a runway you DON'T end up departing on what does one do? (Peter?) Does ground/tower pass that info up the food chain to let them know you are departing north?
Anyway, ATC was just trying to do me a favor and get me out of Bullhead, there's that name again, and enroute south expeditiously, but he goofed on the winds. He immediately cleared me for a 34 departure and I told him, I'd be flying the 34 ODP-- vmc subsection - (which is essentially the same as the 16 ODP, visual subsection) as in turn back and overfly the field at 2300 enroute the VOR (if memory serves).
That was pretty much it other than I enjoyed flying the VOR RWY 30 into Cochrane as it has an arc and I love'em!
http://skyvector.com/files/tpp/1501/pdf/00529VD30.PDF
Todd
N3298S
PS What is the Official Radio name of this airport anyway? I couldn't find an Airport Diagram other than the one in the A/FD and it isn't labeled. I'm sensitive on this since calling KTOA "Zamperini Tower". Looks like KTRM gets "cochrane, thermal, or some "desert resort" or somesuch...I think I went with Cochrane on the tape...