Midway 3
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:50 pm
I have yet to hear an explanation that makes sense to me on this departure. I flew it once years ago and forget how it went for me, other then I believe i was given to departure so quick and they gave me a heading to fly so quick that the procedure wasnt really flown.
But does anyone else find it confusing specifically departing RW 4L/R?
Suppose I was cleared via midway 3 climb via sid.....
If i remember tower gave me a heading with takeoff clearance, then slight confusion Occured.
Not sure about local procedure between tower and approach but...
Either tower clears u for takeoff without heading or with a heading.
If tower doesnt assign heading it makes sense.
If however which i believe is what occurs, tower gives u " fly heading xxx runway 4L cfto, i am a bit confused.
1) what if tower assigned heading 270.....i read it as fly 270 and make turn south of the radial. (No turn to 100)
2) what about tower assigned 020 with takeoff clearance? Then i read it as you dont really fly that heading untill u complied with DP. That is where most of my befuddlement occurs. Not used to getting a "fly heading 020" from tower but not flying the heading.
I also get confused on this one with the phrases of "complete initially assigned turn". Are they referencing te tower assigned heading or the dp heading 100? I assume the tower heading cause other runways dont have a turn depicted on dp.
And on this one spexifically i am confused with the phrase of "proceeding on course", as it reads for 4L/R . Are they speaking about the tower assigned heading or some other course? I would have expected something more of "climb right turn to 2400 heading 100 then via tower assigned heading"
Ideas?
But does anyone else find it confusing specifically departing RW 4L/R?
Suppose I was cleared via midway 3 climb via sid.....
If i remember tower gave me a heading with takeoff clearance, then slight confusion Occured.
Not sure about local procedure between tower and approach but...
Either tower clears u for takeoff without heading or with a heading.
If tower doesnt assign heading it makes sense.
If however which i believe is what occurs, tower gives u " fly heading xxx runway 4L cfto, i am a bit confused.
1) what if tower assigned heading 270.....i read it as fly 270 and make turn south of the radial. (No turn to 100)
2) what about tower assigned 020 with takeoff clearance? Then i read it as you dont really fly that heading untill u complied with DP. That is where most of my befuddlement occurs. Not used to getting a "fly heading 020" from tower but not flying the heading.
I also get confused on this one with the phrases of "complete initially assigned turn". Are they referencing te tower assigned heading or the dp heading 100? I assume the tower heading cause other runways dont have a turn depicted on dp.
And on this one spexifically i am confused with the phrase of "proceeding on course", as it reads for 4L/R . Are they speaking about the tower assigned heading or some other course? I would have expected something more of "climb right turn to 2400 heading 100 then via tower assigned heading"
Ideas?