July 25 0800pdt 1500z Anywhere to KSFO

[bruce]

Still to work it out but fly into KSFO landing hopefully not > 5 mins apart. Departure dependent on a/c type & time enroute.

I'll be in the Legacy (what else - practice makes perfect )

Meet on DTP TS 1500z / 0800pdt / 0100 Aussie the next day.

[Kim Ellis]

Sounds kewl. Just remember I need mega prep time compared to you experts, just don't know how you do it. There is a superb approach from the north where you fly very high parallel to the Golden Gate heading south and at the last minute do a steep descent and left onto the 28s. Might require some coordination with ATC so not for tomorrow, but I do remember it as one of those real world specials where the sim does recreate the feeling.

[Keith Smith]

The steep descent from the NW is usually followed by a right turn over the bay onto final for the 28's. It's known as the 'down the bay' visual. The standard procedure from the NW is for left traffic onto the 28's, and is a gentler descent gradient.

[Kim Ellis]

Thanks Keith you prodded my memory as to where I saw it recently. It was a video of a real world flight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkx4BcCfkmI, an A380 approach & final. Left or right base, I am sure it has changed a few times since then.

[bruce]

We could try the same as yesterday but with better co-ordination on my part. I'm in no rush, my flight took 0:57

http://peaware.pilotedge.net/flight.cfm?id=35782

see you on TS at 0800pdt / 1500z & we can finalise things. Have you made you're peace with Anthony as he may be looking for pay back

[Kim Ellis]

Same as yesterday KLAX-KSFO (http://peaware.pilotedge.net/flight.cfm?id=35781) would be fine by me. Or KLAS-KSFO (http://peaware.pilotedge.net/flight.cfm?id=35869) as it has a few more out of the way places to enter a holding pattern. Bottom line though is we either need to be terribly smart with our speeds, or have the controller in the know and helping. Anthony was so busy controlling I doubt he even noticed he forced an approach reprogram on me. Either way I might decline if it's all too much for a while. KLAX onto 28L and KLAS onto 28R is not an unrealistic expectation. You're the boss on this one Bruce so bark out the commands. See you on the company channel shortly, after a clean up and reboot.

[Kim Ellis]

Start of proceedings tomorrow 0100 Saturday 27th July (my time), 0800 PDT Friday 26th July (SoCal's time), I will be back in the captain's seat of my beloved B744. See you in the company channel on DTP in approximately 3.5 hours.