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SIDs and STARs

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:52 pm
by iracer99
Would like info on SID's and STAR's. Example, taking a PA31 IFR out of KLAS to KSNA, do I need to include a departure procedure in my flight plan? Or are the "Procedures" only required for turbines? If one is required, how would I go about finding the appropriate one without going through each individual procedure on SkyVector? (18 different departure procedures)

Thank You,
Tommy

Re: SIDs and STARs

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 7:56 pm
by kleistad
You will be given one by clearance. But if you check the atis on myflightroute.com you´ll get the active runway. Knowing that and where your route starts will help narrow it down. Som SIDs are jets only, so you can rule them out as well

Recomend watching the workshops, they answer almost every question one might have :)

Re: SIDs and STARs

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:44 pm
by Kyle.Sanders
I know that KLAS was just an example, but MPQ aircraft don't fly SIDs out of KLAS. They will be given a heading to fly after departure for a radar vector on course. There is no way for you know that unless you are familiar with the airport, as it is not exactly posted for public knowledge.

Re: SIDs and STARs

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:28 am
by Marcus Becker
kleistad wrote:You will be given one by clearance. But if you check the atis on myflightroute.com you´ll get the active runway. Knowing that and where your route starts will help narrow it down. Som SIDs are jets only, so you can rule them out as well
Not necessarily so in the USA, my friend. You're better off planning and filing one as long as you meet the procedure's requirements but always be flexible.

The easiest way is to go to either Skyvector's IFR Route Analyzer or PEAware's City Pair and check to see what has been filed that matches your aircraft class. If nothing is there, you get to do the planning.

Re: SIDs and STARs

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2016 7:34 am
by kleistad
One learn something new every day, thank you :)