Question on Shortening Callsign for ATC During Readbacks
Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:21 am
Hello, all
I'm pretty new to PilotEdge. This is my first month of paid subscription, and have flown about 4 flights on it total, or 5. Two two days ago had two serious pilot errors, but thankfully that taught me a lot such as actually bother to review the SID instructions for your runway...don't just assume 'computer knows best', because you're happy you got the latest AIRAC cycle, hah. Maybe will post on the incident in a while.
Anyway, I'm wondering if it's possible to shorten or even leave out a callsign during readback, at leaast once established with a controller for a few calls or so, and airborne of course. I typically fly American so I say "American" , and also typically four digit flights as I'm not prestigious enough for only 3 or 2...
Lately I use PilotEdge reciever so I can actually hear when there's dead air for me to chime in. Funny how when you first start doing that you think you're interrupting yourself, hah. SO yeah, there's my question - could I say, when getting radar vectors to final just readback "Turn right heading 080, forty five seventy" (AA4570), or simply read back without the callsign numbers? I'm guessing not .
Any tips otherwise on shortening up calls? I just learned not to say "with you" so I'm gonna have to drop that bad habit. Kept wondering why I'd hear another controller chime into my frequency other than the main one saying "I'm also with you!" in a joking tone, at least a couple times. (Maybe it was another pilot, not entirely sure but usually can't hear em). The other one I can think of is at least say 80 to 90 percent of the time, even in a *great* mood and working well with ATC , to just leave good day out. Also, to stop saying "going to [frequency]" Just read the frequency and the callsign, I' think. Going to actually type and print a one page reference for my ATC calls in the future, or even one I can generate which fills in my callsign per flight, so I can start getting used to some of those. Thanks for reading all this. ...Good day.
I'm pretty new to PilotEdge. This is my first month of paid subscription, and have flown about 4 flights on it total, or 5. Two two days ago had two serious pilot errors, but thankfully that taught me a lot such as actually bother to review the SID instructions for your runway...don't just assume 'computer knows best', because you're happy you got the latest AIRAC cycle, hah. Maybe will post on the incident in a while.
Anyway, I'm wondering if it's possible to shorten or even leave out a callsign during readback, at leaast once established with a controller for a few calls or so, and airborne of course. I typically fly American so I say "American" , and also typically four digit flights as I'm not prestigious enough for only 3 or 2...
Lately I use PilotEdge reciever so I can actually hear when there's dead air for me to chime in. Funny how when you first start doing that you think you're interrupting yourself, hah. SO yeah, there's my question - could I say, when getting radar vectors to final just readback "Turn right heading 080, forty five seventy" (AA4570), or simply read back without the callsign numbers? I'm guessing not .
Any tips otherwise on shortening up calls? I just learned not to say "with you" so I'm gonna have to drop that bad habit. Kept wondering why I'd hear another controller chime into my frequency other than the main one saying "I'm also with you!" in a joking tone, at least a couple times. (Maybe it was another pilot, not entirely sure but usually can't hear em). The other one I can think of is at least say 80 to 90 percent of the time, even in a *great* mood and working well with ATC , to just leave good day out. Also, to stop saying "going to [frequency]" Just read the frequency and the callsign, I' think. Going to actually type and print a one page reference for my ATC calls in the future, or even one I can generate which fills in my callsign per flight, so I can start getting used to some of those. Thanks for reading all this. ...Good day.