Round-Robin Flight Plans
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:05 pm
http://audio.pilotedge.net/2022/9/2022- ... _17510.mp3 @ 3:10
I recently filed KCMA to KCMA via KOXR with the remark “round-robin, practice approaches”. I picked-up the clearance without issue however, once airborne, Pt. Mugu said I should file separately or file a “through clearance” in the future and proceeded to give me a new IFR clearance with KOXR as the destination.
While it has admittedly been many years since I last did it, round-robin flight plans, as I filed above, used to be common, particularly for training. It appears something has changed, but my research online has not revealed to me what. Moreover, my understanding was that a “through clearance” is for intermediate stops (fuel, bio-break, etc) along route to a final destination.
Looking at this thread here www.reddit.com/r/ATC/comments/dhrw4j/ro ... ight_plan/, it seems to show every controller has a different preference, however there appears to be no actual guidance referenced.
The only AIM reference I can find it the statement that “Round Robin Flight Plans to Canada and Mexico are not accepted”. This would imply to me that, in general at least, they would be accepted otherwise.
Any clarification here is appreciated.
I recently filed KCMA to KCMA via KOXR with the remark “round-robin, practice approaches”. I picked-up the clearance without issue however, once airborne, Pt. Mugu said I should file separately or file a “through clearance” in the future and proceeded to give me a new IFR clearance with KOXR as the destination.
While it has admittedly been many years since I last did it, round-robin flight plans, as I filed above, used to be common, particularly for training. It appears something has changed, but my research online has not revealed to me what. Moreover, my understanding was that a “through clearance” is for intermediate stops (fuel, bio-break, etc) along route to a final destination.
Looking at this thread here www.reddit.com/r/ATC/comments/dhrw4j/ro ... ight_plan/, it seems to show every controller has a different preference, however there appears to be no actual guidance referenced.
The only AIM reference I can find it the statement that “Round Robin Flight Plans to Canada and Mexico are not accepted”. This would imply to me that, in general at least, they would be accepted otherwise.
Any clarification here is appreciated.