Need advice on clearance while on the ground

[yair1956]

... okay this is the situation

I'm on the ground at KDSM, which is class Delta squeezed between the international boarder & San Diego Class Bravo. You almost hit The Bravo upon T.O.
My questions are:
Assuming departure to the north:
A. Can/ should I get Clearance while on the ground.
B. If the answer is yes, should I get clearance from KDSM Clearance Delivery, SoCal Dep or San Diego Approach ???
Thanks in Advance

Yair

[Ryan Geckler]

... okay this is the situation

I'm on the ground at KDSM, which is class Delta squeezed between the international boarder & San Diego Class Bravo. You almost hit The Bravo upon T.O.
My questions are:
Assuming departure to the north:
A. Can/ should I get Clearance while on the ground.
B. If the answer is yes, should I get clearance from KDSM Clearance Delivery, SoCal Dep or San Diego Approach ???
Thanks in Advance

Yair

For starters, KDSM is Des Moines, Iowa. You are thinking of Brown Field, which is KSDM.

Secondly, Brown is a towered airfield, so you would obviously need to contact them. If you are looking for flight following, you'd let the tower know and they would give you your transponder code and frequency. They won't be able to give a Bravo clearance, but as long as you make your departure turn tight and remain outside the Bravo, you'll have plenty of time to call up SoCal and get through the Bravo if needed.

Also, San Diego APP = SoCal APP.

[Keith Smith]

Yair,

In addition to what Ryan said, the statement that "You almost hit The Bravo upon T.O." when departing to the north is simply not true. It's critical to think in 3D when considering which airspace you'll be flying through.

Remaining below 3000ft will keep you clear of airspace for quite a while as you head north, certainly more than enough time to coordinate any transitions with Socal Approch, if they're needed.

[yair1956]

..ollah ... I think I got the idea.

VFR
Before take of change freq to Brown Tower
Request Flight advisory (Option)
T/O, remain below 3,000 Ft.
Change to SoCal Approach
Request Clearance through Bravo
get clearance, clime to cruising altitude & maintain own navigation.

Time to practice.

Tnx guys.
&
wish happy holidays
....geeee Iowa, .. kind of fare for my little Cessna, no .... lol

[Daddy O]

Flying vfr in socal is harder and riskier than ifr with the way the airports are packed in there. Easy to get in trouble

[yair1956]

.... other than the weather ,nothing is easy in SoCal, neither the Fwy's at 0 AGL nor the Airways at 10,000AGL .... it's all packed

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