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Re: Hold read back?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:22 am
by Keith Smith
Absolutely. The list of things a controller might tell you at a given point in the flight is actually fairly short. In fact, when they make a call that's out of context for the phase of the flight, you brain struggles to process it!

Case in point, I was transitioning over Teterboro (KTEB) with the intention of doing a scenic flight over the Hudson River. The tower controller said, "say parking" but my brain just couldn't believe it was hearing those words and so I kept asking him to say again, figuring I was not hearing him correctly. When he said it super clearly, the light bulb went on and I said, "we're not landing, we're transitioning eastbound."

Context is very important in the comms and over time, you realize just how few things there are to be said during a given phase of flight.

Re: Hold read back?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:13 pm
by Peter Grey
"cessna 123AB...never mind, disregard."
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Re: Hold read back?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:28 pm
by jay9909
Keith Smith wrote:"fish finder."
Never heard this one before. o_O

Re: Hold read back?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:01 pm
by ridikamus
jay9909 wrote:
Keith Smith wrote:"fish finder."
Never heard this one before. o_O
It's a humorous reference to TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) displays. Something about traffic in the area resembling the display of an electronic fish finder you'd see on a fishing boat. Not sure how it relates to excess radio traffic though.

Re: Hold read back?

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:05 pm
by Peter Grey
Fish finder is a term for TCAS.

So for example:

"United 747, traffic 12 o clock 10 miles a Cessna 172"
"We have him on the fish finder"

Re: Hold read back?

Posted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:51 am
by Bidimus
Keith Smith wrote:Absolutely. The list of things a controller might tell you at a given point in the flight is actually fairly short. In fact, when they make a call that's out of context for the phase of the flight, you brain struggles to process it!

Case in point, I was transitioning over Teterboro (KTEB) with the intention of doing a scenic flight over the Hudson River. The tower controller said, "say parking" but my brain just couldn't believe it was hearing those words and so I kept asking him to say again, figuring I was not hearing him correctly. When he said it super clearly, the light bulb went on and I said, "we're not landing, we're transitioning eastbound."

Context is very important in the comms and over time, you realize just how few things there are to be said during a given phase of flight.
Lol that's awesome. Sounds exactly like just the sort of thing that would happen to me. It's nice to see that even a pilot with your experience goes through these situations too. :)