Re: Flight planning complaint
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 6:53 pm
Great answer Peter.
Ahhh! Okay now it makes sense! Thank you! I've been wondering what the problem is, and it's my over-reliance on filing fixes. I'm over-thinking my flight planning. I'm only a sim pilot so I'm still trying to learn real world procedures. So if I understand you correctly, I need to abbreviate my flight plan when filing it with ATC, but I can leave the fixes in my FMC plan that I load. I had gotten myself into the habit of filing a flight plan with ATC exacly the way it appears in my FMC.Peter Grey wrote:Hello,
The problem with your route wasn't quite what you are under the impression it was. I was the controller working your flight.
The problem with your route was that you filed 30 fixes which mostly corresponded to PEBLE5 SLI POM DAG KEPEC3. The problem with this was you had a couple extra fixes and a couple missing fixes, that's why you weren't cleared as filed (also you can't file every fix on the departure and arrival in replacement for the departure and arrival). Your choice to go over SLI vs SXC was not the problem. Honestly I didn't even notice SLI in the route section (as soon as I saw the mass of fixes I simply changed it to the preferred route, only later did I realize that what you filed was close to that).
When I cleared you via PEBLE5 SXC LAX DAG CLARR2 (the preferred route) you simply indicated you wouldn't be able to do the flight and requested a VFR departure. If you had asked for SLI POM DAG instead of SXC LAX DAG I would have given it to you (it is considered an acceptable route by us however by default without a specific request we route you via SXC).
If you had filed "PEBLE5 SLI POM DAG CLARR2" you would have been cleared as filed.
I appreciate everyone's assistance on this issue. Now I can start filing and planning my routes MUCH more efficiently! Thanks!!
