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Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:04 am
by Keith Smith
Hour 1 radar/gnd/twr: http://www.pilotedge.net/recordings/hou ... _17520.mp3
Hour 2 radar: http://www.pilotedge.net/recordings/hou ... _17520.mp3
Hour 3 radar: http://www.pilotedge.net/recordings/hou ... _17520.mp3

Hour 2 gnd/twr: http://www.pilotedge.net/recordings/hou ... _18021.mp3
Hour 3 gnd/twr: http://www.pilotedge.net/recordings/hou ... _18021.mp3

That was a really fun event. I was hoping to fly it but opted to help out on the controlling side.

Re: Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:49 pm
by Orest Skrypuch
Hey, how about that, I made the first voice on the recording.

Sadly, that was a flight to KTRK, just before the event, had a family dinner to go to.

* Orest

Re: Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:34 pm
by Orest Skrypuch
What is the high pitched alert tone that is heard in the background, from time to time? Sounds like an inner marker tone.

* Orest

Re: Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:32 pm
by Ryan Geckler
It's our conflict alert sound.

Re: Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:47 pm
by Orest Skrypuch
I was thinking it might be. Does that announce loss of separation, or impending loss, or something else?

* Orest

Re: Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:15 pm
by Keith Smith
it means that a tracked aircraft is getting less than 3nm laterally or 1000ft vertically from another aircraft. It's not a loss of separation, necessarily, depending on whether we're on the hook for separating them in the first place. In almost every case, it's an IFR aircraft getting close to a drone, a tracked VFR aircraft getting close to a drone, a tracked VFR aircraft getting close to another tracked VFR aircraft, or two IFR aircraft where visual separation is being applied. In all of those cases, we're not providing separation, but the scope doesn't know that...so it screams bloody murder.

Whenever I'm flying through N90 (New York TRACON), I often hear the collision alerts going off in the background when controllers talk. The time you really don't want to be hearing it is when the entire TRACON is in IMC.

Re: Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:01 am
by Alex Stjepanovic
Keith is just trying to put it politely. In REALITY, it's an alarm bell, that goes off every 43.5481457412 seconds, in order to make sure the controller hasn't fallen asleep! :lol:

Re: Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:15 am
by Orest Skrypuch
... well, that is a good thing. ;)

Check on the explanation, Keith.

* Orest

Re: Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 12:40 am
by Mark Hargrove
I could hear it almost constantly whenever I was talking to Keith "Center" Smith. I recognized what it was from watching the two videos of the LAX fly-in during the beta, but I couldn't figure out why it was going off so much.

I remember thinking " God, I hope thats not my fault!"

Re: Sheltered Existence event recordings

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:04 pm
by TexFly
ahahahah Mark, that's exactly what I thought!

I said "crap, here it is, I did something wrong. I even triggered the alarm!"