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Hi all,
Where do pilots find TEC routes? Tonight I was given the Burbank N19 TEC route, and I couldn't find it anywhere. Foreflight didn't have it so it totally messed me up.

Keith, I know you sent me a couple PMs with places where you found it, but I have all text messages off in X-Plane to make the ATIS slightly more realistic, so the text to speech on the messages was hard to make out.

Thanks in advance!

Brett

Sorry, Brett, I forgot you were X-Plane, not FSX, my bad.

1) http://findflight.web44.net is a good source, derived from recent FAA data, provided by Ken Ullery.

2) http://aeronav.faa.gov/pdfs/sw_rear_10JAN2013.pdf (this will change in the next cycle). Search for "BURN19". There's another thread in the forums about the digital AFD, do some searching when you can, or perhaps someone else can post it. It's 3:10am, I gotta call it a night

FYI - the NFDC Preferred Route Database is operational again (http://www.fly.faa.gov/rmt/nfdc_preferr ... tabase.jsp) however if you use it, DO SO WITH EXTREME CAUTION. There are a number of unique twists to how their database is structured which easily result in misleading and incomplete results when using their query. I believe this lead to a number of the errors that have been documented on various flight planning utilities.

As Keith has pointed out a number of times, the definitive authority is the current A/FD which is not terribly convenient to use. This is the source data used for Findflight and as far as I know, it yields the correct routes with appropriate altitudes and notations.

For sim flight, trust what I have in Findflight, for RW flights CONFIRM WITH THE CURRENT A/FD!!

Here is the process to check the actual FAA data:

• go to http://aeronav.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=ae ... ions/d_afd
• Page down and select the link for the current "digital Airport/Facility Directory" (this link changes with each revision)
• Then select California and "search"
• Click the "Supplemental" link (located just above the table showing your search results)
• Go to about page 53-63 (page numbers could change in each revision)
• Now search for your TEC route

Unfortunately, AT&T is my ISP and so I have no access to FindFlight. (They block Web44 as mentioned in the other thread.)

For the time being I will have to use the AFD.

Thanks for the help!

Brett

Brett,

As Ken mentioned, the FAA preferred route database works again, so you can do real-time look ups with that. I just entered 'VNY' to 'SNA' and it worked fine.

Ok, I was officially *VERY* tired last night.

That route is in foreflight. Keith said "Burbank N19 TEC route."

My brain last night did not put BURN19 together with Burbank N19.

Uhh yeah, don't fly tired.

Brett

That's ok, your delayed departure meant that you left just before a turboprop out of BUR which actually gave the departure controller some actual controlling to do