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DME arc approaches in PE airspace

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:35 am
by kwhite37
Just wanted to see if anyone knows of any approaches in the PE airspace besides KVCV that have a DME arc as part of the approach?

Re: DME arc approached in PE airspace

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:37 am
by Keith Smith
SGU used to have them before the airport was relocated and the approaches were reworked for the new airport.

I don't know of any others off the top of my head. This is why VCV was chosen for the new I-11 :)

The good news is that you can practice arcs any time you like...just fly VFR, pick a VOR, pick two radials and a distance and fly till your heart's content!

The only arc I've had a chance to fly in real life was as I described above. The technique was identical to the one used when using an arc on an instrument approach.

Re: DME arc approached in PE airspace

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:40 am
by Keith Smith
The most interesting approach with arcs that I know of is into Martin State (KMTN), the VOR/DME RWY 15. It's evil incarnate :)

Re: DME arc approached in PE airspace

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:40 am
by Ryan Geckler
NYL ILS21R
GCN ILS or LOC/DME 3

Re: DME arc approached in PE airspace

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:43 am
by Keith Smith
Thx Ryan! I forgot about GCN and never knew about NYL's!

Re: DME arc approached in PE airspace

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:51 am
by Ryan Geckler
A couple of us were actually talking about airports with DME arcs pretty recently... another one is TRM VOR/DME 30.

Re: DME arc approaches in PE airspace

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:31 pm
by Daddy O
Sadists!

Re: DME arc approaches in PE airspace

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:20 pm
by seippg
Just a mile or two north of the PE airspace, Paso Robles (KPRB) has an arced approach to runway 19 and an arced VOR/DME. It doesn't have a tower.

Re: DME arc approaches in PE airspace

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:05 pm
by Ryan B
I just flew the VCV arc the other day.... pretty simple... my plane's RMI made the step down simple to 5200.

I don't see many NDB approaches in socal airspace though. Timed NDB approaches (with a wind) are always tricky for me.

Re: DME arc approaches in PE airspace

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:21 pm
by Keith Smith
Ryan,

Those are about as hard as they get, but they are truly going away. Practically speaking, I focus on approaches that I'll actually be flying when I get to my destination in IMC :)

One of the first approaches I ever got to fly in the real world during training was an NDB approach. I practiced it the night before in the sim and botched it, flew it again and fixed it, then went and did it in the airplane and NEARLY botched it (with the same mistake), but caught the error because of the experience the night before.