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TEC route for turbo pistons

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:06 pm
by jtek
My last few flights on PE using the FSX-stock Mooney M20M Bravo, I have been assigned the "M" TEC route, rather than the "P" route I was expecting. The "M" routes are for "Turbo Props/Special", which I understand to mean turbine-powered aircraft like a King Air or Pilatus, not turbocharged piston aircraft like a Mooney M20M or an SR-22T. Am I mistaken, or was the controller?

Re: TEC route for turbo pistons

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:29 pm
by Keith Smith
Sounds like the controller thought you were in a turbine aircraft for some reason. By all means, point out to them that you're a piston if you suspect you're being assigned the turboprop routing.

Re: TEC route for turbo pistons

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:16 am
by Anthony Santanastaso
jtek wrote:My last few flights on PE using the FSX-stock Mooney M20M Bravo, I have been assigned the "M" TEC route, rather than the "P" route I was expecting. The "M" routes are for "Turbo Props/Special", which I understand to mean turbine-powered aircraft like a King Air or Pilatus, not turbocharged piston aircraft like a Mooney M20M or an SR-22T. Am I mistaken, or was the controller?
You would be assigned the "P" route since your plane type and weight class, according to FAA JO 7340.20A, is L1P/S (the "P" means Piston). Additionally, your type designator would be M20T.

Just to add (or really reinforce), I think that it's best to verify with the controller what you have so that you are assigned the correct TEC route.

Re: TEC route for turbo pistons

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:04 am
by jtek
What is a good* source for looking up those aircraft type codes? I thought the M20M Bravo was "M20T" ("T" for Turbo) but my source may be incorrect. Maybe I'll start using "M20P" just to avoid the confusion.

*EDIT: by "good", I mean "authoritative".

Re: TEC route for turbo pistons

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:40 am
by Anthony Santanastaso
jtek wrote:What is a good* source for looking up those aircraft type codes? I thought the M20M Bravo was "M20T" ("T" for Turbo) but my source may be incorrect. Maybe I'll start using "M20P" just to avoid the confusion.

*EDIT: by "good", I mean "authoritative".
FAA Order JO 7340.2C, Chapter 5.

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publicat ... /index.htm

There was a typo in my previous post. A M20M is indeed M20T. Sorry for the confusion.

Re: TEC route for turbo pistons

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:18 pm
by Keith Smith
If you're looking for a definitive list of aircraft identifiers: http://www.icao.int/publications/DOC864 ... earch.aspx

Try searching by Manufacturer "Mooney" and all of the models will come up.

It's cruel that the model name is often close, but not QUITE the same as the aircraft identifier. For example, PA28 Cherokee/Archer actually has an aircraft identifier of P28A.