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hi, listening to livetac klax depapp/west controller say pfter direct tevee or pevee i tried to look to charts and no succes, any hint wcih int is it?

luis

Probably PEVEE. It's on a couple different procedures.

http://skyvector.com/files/tpp/1413/pdf/00237HOLTZ.PDF

EDIT: ^^Beat me to it.

PEVEE is on the OSHNN DP and is where the departures merge. Could be there.

never heard that holz 9 sid was a normally used SID ive check just the most common ones.....

thanks

HOLTZ SID can't be used in lieu of the OSHNN SID, they have completely different transitions.

The LOOP SID is very common. However, if aircraft can't meet the climb gradient for the LOOP, or it's outside of the published hours for the LOOP, then planes generally fly the OSHNN or the SEBBY. Here's the list of routes from LAX to LAS, for example: http://flightaware.com/analysis/route.r ... ation=KLAS

Notice how popular the LOOP is. Notice there are no cases where the HOLTZ is used for DAG overflights.

ok but in pilot edge we normally dont fly the loop for las or the holz or the rnavs ill say...those are the ones il checked....pevee is not on the loop....

luis

everithing its going rnavier.....well we cant do anything about it,,,thats how it is

I'm confused. The LOOP is flown all the time on PE.

my mistake keith,, im more used to ksna sids, than from lax...

ive noticed the sebby is not in skyvector but its in airnav....weird....

The waypoint you mentioned is on the OSHNN (RNAV DP). It is quite possible that the aircraft was using this DP as it is used (mainly when the LOOP isn't). Out of curiosity, what does it matter? Do you want to be given direct to this fix on the network at some point? Does the name have sentimental importance? Were you just curious where the aircraft was? I too am confused but for different reasons as Keith.

falopz wrote:my mistake keith,, im more used to ksna sids, than from lax...

ive noticed the sebby is not in skyvector but its in airnav....weird....

Skyvector
Sure it is.