GREAT Airspace Quiz!
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 12:10 pm
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GREAT Airspace Quiz!
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Re: GREAT Airspace Quiz!
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:09 pm
*yawn* I got a 100, let me know when you find a hard one.
Re: GREAT Airspace Quiz!
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 4:47 pm
67% 
Think I need a refresher on the first few workshops.
Think I need a refresher on the first few workshops.
Re: GREAT Airspace Quiz!
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:51 pm
Peter I got a 100% but still interesting lol
Re: GREAT Airspace Quiz!
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:59 pm
That's actually a pretty good quiz for student pilots and a nice refresher for most pilots.
Nelson, when I've mentored pilots in the past, I've played the "point at the map and tell me what type of airspace we're in at these 4 random altitudes" game. There are few things more important for real world confidence than having absolute and total mastery of Class A/B/C/D/E/G airspace, although I typically argue that if you absolutely need to know whether it's E vs G for weather minimums, it's probably not a great day for VFR anyway.
SO many of the questions we get from pilots through a variety of sources frequently come down to not having complete confidence in the type of airspace in which they're operating, and the rules associated with that airspace.
"Do I need to call..." questions can be answered very quickly.
You can fly VFR anywhere in the country with confidence when you have this stuff nailed down tight. Back to the workshops, as you said
It's not glamorous, but it's worthwhile.
Nelson, when I've mentored pilots in the past, I've played the "point at the map and tell me what type of airspace we're in at these 4 random altitudes" game. There are few things more important for real world confidence than having absolute and total mastery of Class A/B/C/D/E/G airspace, although I typically argue that if you absolutely need to know whether it's E vs G for weather minimums, it's probably not a great day for VFR anyway.
SO many of the questions we get from pilots through a variety of sources frequently come down to not having complete confidence in the type of airspace in which they're operating, and the rules associated with that airspace.
"Do I need to call..." questions can be answered very quickly.
You can fly VFR anywhere in the country with confidence when you have this stuff nailed down tight. Back to the workshops, as you said
It's not glamorous, but it's worthwhile.Re: GREAT Airspace Quiz!
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:04 pm
Had no idea there was a controlled field with class E (not a class D that goes to E during the night)
Re: GREAT Airspace Quiz!
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:07 pm
There are ~4 of them around the country if memory serves. Very interesting beasts.
The first one I came across was during a random XC group flight (coast to coast). We picked a field at random on the sectional on night for the west to east flight and happened to pick a Class G towered airport. I had to go re-read Part 91 for that one!
The first one I came across was during a random XC group flight (coast to coast). We picked a field at random on the sectional on night for the west to east flight and happened to pick a Class G towered airport. I had to go re-read Part 91 for that one!
Re: GREAT Airspace Quiz!
Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 11:07 pm
I started flight training at FWS (Fort Worth Spinks) when it was towered Class G and...
About 15 hours in to my training my instructor and I enter a right downwind for 17R when the tower controller, in a very terse voice, comes on and says, "Cessna NXXXXX taxing via echo, Spinks tower. respond." The Cessna pilot responded and the controller came back with, "I'm not sure what you think you're doing but see that hangar next to the air traffic control tower at your 1 o'clock...I want you to taxi over next to it and sit there and think about what you just did until I get back with you!" The Cessna pilot responded with a surprised and bewildered "okay." I can still hear that conversation in my head as if it had happened yesterday.
Yup, you guessed it. The Cessna pilot flew in and landed without contacting the control tower because it was Class G on the sectional. The strange thing was that tower had been talking to some traffic (us) while they, the Cessna, proceeded to land all while on tower frequency.
On a side note, Arlington Muni (GKY), just to the east of Spinks, was towered Class G as well at the time. So two of the very few towered Class G airports right next to each other. I think it was three years ago, maybe longer, when FWS and GKY went to Class D. Something to do with a weather observation/reporting system requirement that had to be met before being reclassified.
About 15 hours in to my training my instructor and I enter a right downwind for 17R when the tower controller, in a very terse voice, comes on and says, "Cessna NXXXXX taxing via echo, Spinks tower. respond." The Cessna pilot responded and the controller came back with, "I'm not sure what you think you're doing but see that hangar next to the air traffic control tower at your 1 o'clock...I want you to taxi over next to it and sit there and think about what you just did until I get back with you!" The Cessna pilot responded with a surprised and bewildered "okay." I can still hear that conversation in my head as if it had happened yesterday.
Yup, you guessed it. The Cessna pilot flew in and landed without contacting the control tower because it was Class G on the sectional. The strange thing was that tower had been talking to some traffic (us) while they, the Cessna, proceeded to land all while on tower frequency.
On a side note, Arlington Muni (GKY), just to the east of Spinks, was towered Class G as well at the time. So two of the very few towered Class G airports right next to each other. I think it was three years ago, maybe longer, when FWS and GKY went to Class D. Something to do with a weather observation/reporting system requirement that had to be met before being reclassified.