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/X Acft restriction?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:08 am
by Jari Junior
Hi, i'm starting my PE training flying over Brown (KSDM) and I want to know more about restrictions because i'm using the J3 (no xpndr), where can I get this information? Thank you.
Re: /X Acft restriction?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:15 am
by HRutila
An aircraft without a transponder would not be permitted to fly out of SDM because that airport exists within the San Diego Mode C Veil. On Pilotedge, every aircraft is equipped with a transponder via the Pilotedge client. You would be required to use it flying within 30nm of San Diego Int'l.
Re: /X Acft restriction?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:24 am
by Jari Junior
Interesting, i didnt knew about that. Last week I flew without transponder, I though was not a good idea turn my PE transponder on since I was using a J3 without transponder.. so this is why i'm asking.
Re: /X Acft restriction?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:43 am
by Mudhen
http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?rg ... .2.91_1215
An airplane operating within the veil is not necessarily operating in the Class B airspace.
With certain exceptions, you can operate your airplane within the Mode C veil, but must remain outside of Class A, B, or C airspace.
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14 CFR 91.215 - ATC transponder and altitude reporting equipment and use.
(3) Notwithstanding paragraph (b)(2) of this section, any aircraft which was not originally certificated with an engine-driven electrical system or which has not subsequently been certified with such a system installed, balloon or glider may conduct operations in the airspace within 30 nautical miles of an airport listed in appendix D, section 1 of this part provided such operations are conducted—
(i) Outside any Class A, Class B, or Class C airspace area; and
(ii) Below the altitude of the ceiling of a Class B or Class C airspace area designated for an airport or 10,000 feet MSL, whichever is lower…
Re: /X Acft restriction?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:50 am
by Jari Junior
I was reading about that before, this is why i'm so confused. So, with the PE software, is J3 /T ? I'm trying to understand because I can't set any squawk code (no instrument for that)
Re: /X Acft restriction?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:54 am
by svilenv
HRutila wrote: On Pilotedge, every aircraft is equipped with a transponder via the Pilotedge client.
Does this also apply to the X-Plane client? If so how can the feature be accessed? (Asking as I also have a couple of /X antiques that I wouldn't mind occasionally taking for a spin in the "C" areas).
Re: /X Acft restriction?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:58 am
by Jari Junior
svilenv wrote:HRutila wrote: On Pilotedge, every aircraft is equipped with a transponder via the Pilotedge client.
Does this also apply to the X-Plane client? If so how can the feature be accessed? (Asking as I also have a couple of /X antiques that I wouldn't mind occasionally taking for a spin in the "C" areas).
i'm not a x-plane guy but I believe its the same procedure since the PE client send your aircraft's info to the network...
Re: /X Acft restriction?
Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:50 pm
by Keith Smith
our scope allows for just two conditions. Primary target, or Mode C. The plugin is going to ask the sim for the transponder code and mode. If altitude reporting (Mode C) isn't turned on, then it will send 'primary target' state only. However, if the aircraft panel actually has NO transponder at all, I'm not sure what data about transponder state is sent to the plugin. It the plane was started cold and dark, the underlying xpndr will be off. If the sim was loaded with engine/avionics running, the underlying transponder may well be turned on, with Mode C enabled.
If you want to simulate /X operations, I'd recommend starting cold and dark. That way, the sim's underlying transponder model will be off as well.
For FSX/P3D operations, feel free to set it to squawk stdby to simulate not having the transponder.
Re: /X Acft restriction?
Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:00 am
by Jari Junior
Thank you for the information.. I always start i cold n dark. I just want to know if I can fly with a "virtual" mode C without set any code and how the controllers can handle it. When I flew the controller didnt gave me any squawk code and I also flew with the xpndr in standby. I just don't want to break any rules.
Thanks Keith.