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U.K. Call signs
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:22 pm
by pipeorgan
I have had my 2 second training flight, which I loved, but I feel that I will find communicating with ATC very difficult. I fly from Redhill which is next to Gatwick and the radio chatter is constant. I have therefore been considering using PilotEdge as a tool but would I be able to use my UK Call sign G-CBFA from the DA40?
Re: U.K. Call signs
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:02 pm
by Shawn Goldsworthy
Use it! Absolutely. We see international callsigns all the time.
Re: U.K. Call signs
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:12 pm
by ewandougie
One thing I have noticed when I have used a alphabetical callsign is some controllers will read it out non-phonetically e.g GBWWW instead of Golf Bravo Whiskey Whiskey Whiskey which is a bit strange when I am a UK PPL
Re: U.K. Call signs
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:34 pm
by Keith Smith
Since we can't shorten international callsigns, it is time consuming to read out the whole thing phonetically every time.
It is permissable to simply read out the letters for international callsigns.
Re: U.K. Call signs
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:50 am
by pipeorgan
Thanks guys for your responses, I guess that I will now have to try it and hope that phonetics can be used for realism rather than letters.
Re: U.K. Call signs
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:46 am
by Keith Smith
Perhaps consider a us registration, such as the N123AB format, it can be shortened and will require phoenetics.
Re: U.K. Call signs
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:31 am
by svilenv
For what it's worth: in Europe callsigns (reg numbers) can be shortened by ATC using the following recommended pattern: keep the initial letter and the last 2 letters of the callsign. E.g. my preferred local callsign LZ-SVI is commonly shortened to Lima-Victor-India. My friend from across the border flies as YU-TVA, shortened to Yankee-Victor-Alpha, etc. Less common but not unheard of (might be country-specific) is abbreviating to the last 3 letters of the callsign, e.g. Sierra-Victor-India or Tango-Victor-Alpha. No idea if these patterns are viable in FAA airspace though.
Re: U.K. Call signs
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:00 am
by Peter Grey
No idea if these patterns are viable in FAA airspace though.
Nope, the FAA guidance specifically prohibits controllers from shortening non US callsigns.
Re: U.K. Call signs
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:08 pm
by Keith Smith
Peter is correct and I mentioned it in an earlier post in this thread.
Re: U.K. Call signs
Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:06 pm
by Kyle.Sanders
Keith Smith wrote:Perhaps consider a us registration, such as the N123AB format, it can be shortened and will require phoenetics.
This can help-
https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificat ... g_nnumber/