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I'm sure this has been answered before but I couldn't find it.

If I can't meet a speed requirement on an arrival (such as 280 kts at GRAMM on the RIIVR3 into LAX) should I file the flight plan WITHOUT the STAR and just enter the individual waypoints into my route, or can I include the arrival in the flight plan and simply inform the controller that I can't comply with the speed requirement?

Thx as always for your help.

either works, however, if you are cleared the STAR, you MUST notify ATC.

I would recommend letting clearance delivery know and putting it in your remarks.

That makes sense, I'll do that... thx!

Now... I'm curious.
Was GRAMM just an example, or your case here? 280 at GRAMM seems reasonable and I'm not sure of a situation (known well in advance) that wouldn't allow you to make that speed. I've also been wrong before... once.... years ago... it's a national day of morning now.

The airplane I was planning on flying on that trip is the Carenado Citation 550, which redlines at about 280 kts...

... also, none of the turboprops I would use to fly that route could meet the 280 knot requirement...

dhplane wrote:The airplane I was planning on flying on that trip is the Carenado Citation 550, which redlines at about 280 kts...

... also, none of the turboprops I would use to fly that route could meet the 280 knot requirement...

It's a jet arrival only, so you wouldn't be on there with a turboprop anyway. But I can understand the situation with the C550. I would imagine the EA50 and other VLJ's would have a similar issue.

Got ya. Thanks