Good day,
(Moved introduction portion of post to a seperate thread under "Introductions")
While listening I've found myself wanting to ask questions and wondered if there might be a time in which one could have a side channel operating during live ops were one could ask questions real time? While listening there has been several situations in which I hear someone, be it a controller or pilot, say something I'm just not sure about. I understand this might be hard to plan as it would need to be at a time in which there are several aircraft online such as there was this afternoon. Just a thought and the end of my ramble!!!
Keith
Pilotedge Receiver
Pilotedge Receiver
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The forum is a good place for that. Lots of helpful people here who love to answer questions.
Josh Hinman
PPL ASEL IA (KSMO)
PPL ASEL IA (KSMO)
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Ya, I hear ya....i just gotta remember to right it all down so I remember what I wanted to ask...lol
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Welcome, Keith. I'm glad find the workshops to be useful.
definitely check out the others if you have some time. I am confident that they will help to fill in some of the other gaps.
you might also want to consider listening to the daily recordings from the previous few days as they move nonstop. it also allows you to post questions relative to a timestamp within a recording.
ask here and you will always get an answer! you could also hang out on the dtp teamspeak and ask questions of others in realtime if anyone is there.
definitely check out the others if you have some time. I am confident that they will help to fill in some of the other gaps.
you might also want to consider listening to the daily recordings from the previous few days as they move nonstop. it also allows you to post questions relative to a timestamp within a recording.
ask here and you will always get an answer! you could also hang out on the dtp teamspeak and ask questions of others in realtime if anyone is there.
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Yes, the recordings are great!
Through listening to RW scanners, LiveATC,Vatsim and Pilotedge it always amazes me as to how pilots are able to read back ATC instructions...Even some of the shorter taxi instructions at some of the larger airports can get a bit complex....I've practiced, tried to write things down and simulate a readback and never get it as well as I know I should. Are there any tools or advice one could give to master this?
Thanks,
Keith
Through listening to RW scanners, LiveATC,Vatsim and Pilotedge it always amazes me as to how pilots are able to read back ATC instructions...Even some of the shorter taxi instructions at some of the larger airports can get a bit complex....I've practiced, tried to write things down and simulate a readback and never get it as well as I know I should. Are there any tools or advice one could give to master this?
Thanks,
Keith
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The key is to know what's coming. If you study the taxiway diagram ahead of time, you'll see there are usually few logical choices that would make sense for getting from your present position to the desired runway (with a few exceptions). I rarely write much down (other than IFR clearances) when flying the airplane.
Visualization is a powerful thing, as is short term memory. Combine that with a bit of pre planning and you should be in good shape. Lastly, it helps to practice it a few hundred times
That's what PE is for!
Visualization is a powerful thing, as is short term memory. Combine that with a bit of pre planning and you should be in good shape. Lastly, it helps to practice it a few hundred times

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I always have the airport diagram up when I call for taxi. They give me the course to taxi as I am looking at it, and readback is logically easy. You are confirming and grasping the assigned course at the same time.
But yeah, for IFR clearances you just about gotta have a shorthand to keep up. In airliners they have a printer that spits out the clearance in printed form, then manually entered (dunno why they don't have a scantron patch at the end of the printout to just import the new clearance.) But you can do things like replacing the word DIRECT with an arrow, VORs can be shortened to their call signs. A good peek at how to shorthand is to look at the TEC routes. If you get int he habit of writing it in that format, then you will have no problem entering it into FMS or tablet navigation app.
But yeah, for IFR clearances you just about gotta have a shorthand to keep up. In airliners they have a printer that spits out the clearance in printed form, then manually entered (dunno why they don't have a scantron patch at the end of the printout to just import the new clearance.) But you can do things like replacing the word DIRECT with an arrow, VORs can be shortened to their call signs. A good peek at how to shorthand is to look at the TEC routes. If you get int he habit of writing it in that format, then you will have no problem entering it into FMS or tablet navigation app.