Flight planning challenge
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Keith Smith
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Completed the flight pretty much as planned.
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Keith Smith
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none taken... just as well because I was rocking out to Faith No More, Hella, Gomez and The Church the entire way.
there was a LOT of air drumming and guitar work going on. good trim practice, flying that far without using the a/p and playing invisible instruments.
it made the time fly by.
there was a LOT of air drumming and guitar work going on. good trim practice, flying that far without using the a/p and playing invisible instruments.
it made the time fly by.
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Steven Winslow
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Gomez......great band!!
Steven Winslow
CEO/Owner - Air Northwest Virtual Airlines • http://www.airnorthwest.org
People should get what they want when they want it once in a while. Keeps them optimisitic.
CEO/Owner - Air Northwest Virtual Airlines • http://www.airnorthwest.org
People should get what they want when they want it once in a while. Keeps them optimisitic.
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sirenbrian
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Re: Flight planning challenge
Which Church tracks/albums did you listen to?
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Steven Winslow
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Oh....by the way, how was the flight? Besides the great music, anything else of note? No pun intended.....er, well, maybe just a little. 
Steven Winslow
CEO/Owner - Air Northwest Virtual Airlines • http://www.airnorthwest.org
People should get what they want when they want it once in a while. Keeps them optimisitic.
CEO/Owner - Air Northwest Virtual Airlines • http://www.airnorthwest.org
People should get what they want when they want it once in a while. Keeps them optimisitic.
Re: Flight planning challenge
I dunno, I think you doing air guitar while flying could have gone viral on YouTube. lol
Brett Johnson
Los Angeles, CA.
PE: Skyhawk C172 - N8979T
Los Angeles, CA.
PE: Skyhawk C172 - N8979T
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Keith Smith
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Re: Flight planning challenge
Completed FTW-EET-SAV today. Spent quite a bit of time managing the engine temp. It didn't help that it was +15C at 9000ft. Attempted to use VFR on TOP to get through a MOA, but was told that if I was IFR (regardless of VFR on TOP), I couldn't go through it, this was news to me, but something I'd never encountered or thought through in the past. So, I dropped down to 7500 (still VOT) and went under it, the MOA was from 8k-18,000. I didn't cancel IFR because there was an overcast layer below me that eventually became a broken layer.
I later requested the RNAV (GPS) RWY 16 into KEET and was cleared for the approach but was told to maintain VFR. I said I was unable to maintain VFR (there was a layer below) and reminded him that I was on an IFR flight plan, but maintaining VOT. That cleared things up. He was about to here release another aircraft from a hold for the same approach, but instead held him a bit longer. I told him I'd cancel once I got below the layer.
Then, something interesting happened. I went through the first set of clouds and while it was bearable, it wasn't a lot of fun. Once I broke out of those, I saw a big enough hole and opted to cancel because the RNAV approach was calling for a turn that would put me through another buildup off to the left. It was interesting making a snap decision to cancel, only having a few seconds to take into account the cloud separation requirements. Another option would've been a contact approach had the hole been much smaller, then I could've canceled after getting through that smaller hole.
Landed at Shelby and experienced the strongest fuel pump I've ever seen at their little filling station. It felt like a Nascar pitstop...I thought I was going to puncture a whole in the wing, it was coming out so fast. I put 14 gallons or so in each wing in what felt like 15 seconds a piece...just crazy.
Then, took off and picked up the IFR to SAV using a dep freq that was posted at the end of the runway (very convenient, I have to say). Controller was very busy but he took care of the IFR for me. Only point of confusion was "say heading departing KYLEE." I was busy with engine management stuff and said, "wilco." Then he later said, "I may have misspoken before, what will your heading be departing KYLEE?" He was trying to work out where I was going next. I'm guessing he couldn't pull up the next fix in his system (I made sure I filed at least one fix in each ARTCC). The thing is, I hadn't entered all of the fixes into the GPS yet, I was going to do it on the fly and so far had only entered the first one. I told him to standby, picked up ForeFlight and looked a the nav log there. It showed the mag course to the next fix so I read it to him and we moved on. Then, with the engine temps under control I programmed in the rest of the route and started the tunes
The arrival at SAV was a bit sporty with a gusty crosswind but otherwise uneventful.
I did hear someone asking if they could get clearance to enter the TRSA at Robins AFB. The controller sighed and pointed out that a clearance wasn't required, he just had to be talking to ATC.
I later requested the RNAV (GPS) RWY 16 into KEET and was cleared for the approach but was told to maintain VFR. I said I was unable to maintain VFR (there was a layer below) and reminded him that I was on an IFR flight plan, but maintaining VOT. That cleared things up. He was about to here release another aircraft from a hold for the same approach, but instead held him a bit longer. I told him I'd cancel once I got below the layer.
Then, something interesting happened. I went through the first set of clouds and while it was bearable, it wasn't a lot of fun. Once I broke out of those, I saw a big enough hole and opted to cancel because the RNAV approach was calling for a turn that would put me through another buildup off to the left. It was interesting making a snap decision to cancel, only having a few seconds to take into account the cloud separation requirements. Another option would've been a contact approach had the hole been much smaller, then I could've canceled after getting through that smaller hole.
Landed at Shelby and experienced the strongest fuel pump I've ever seen at their little filling station. It felt like a Nascar pitstop...I thought I was going to puncture a whole in the wing, it was coming out so fast. I put 14 gallons or so in each wing in what felt like 15 seconds a piece...just crazy.
Then, took off and picked up the IFR to SAV using a dep freq that was posted at the end of the runway (very convenient, I have to say). Controller was very busy but he took care of the IFR for me. Only point of confusion was "say heading departing KYLEE." I was busy with engine management stuff and said, "wilco." Then he later said, "I may have misspoken before, what will your heading be departing KYLEE?" He was trying to work out where I was going next. I'm guessing he couldn't pull up the next fix in his system (I made sure I filed at least one fix in each ARTCC). The thing is, I hadn't entered all of the fixes into the GPS yet, I was going to do it on the fly and so far had only entered the first one. I told him to standby, picked up ForeFlight and looked a the nav log there. It showed the mag course to the next fix so I read it to him and we moved on. Then, with the engine temps under control I programmed in the rest of the route and started the tunes
The arrival at SAV was a bit sporty with a gusty crosswind but otherwise uneventful.
I did hear someone asking if they could get clearance to enter the TRSA at Robins AFB. The controller sighed and pointed out that a clearance wasn't required, he just had to be talking to ATC.
Re: Flight planning challenge
It's cool you stopped by KEET, it's about 15 minutes from my house . Small world....
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I saw on your first leg that you went straight through the Cincy Bravo. Did they clear you straight through or did you have to ask?