Hello everyone,
I am very new to PilotEdge and just would like to say I am very pleased with how it is set up. A little background about myself; Currently a pilot flying for a skydive operation TP206 with just over 500 Hrs TT. ASEL/AMEL part 141 training... Anyways, I am very new to the whole TEC route system and it seems to me that many of the airports in SoCal have this preferred route system set up for use. My question however is on a flight recently flown I filed a TEC route and was given a slightly different route. My question I guess is are TEC routes mandatory? As a pilot we can always say we cannot accept a certain route for whatever reason, but is it going out of the ATC's way to not accept a TEC route, or any given route that you did not file for for that matter?
I have watched many of the workshops and find them very worth while, maybe I missed some info in there somewhere about this? Would be great to hear from someone..
Thanks!
Picking the correct route
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Peter Grey
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Re: Picking the correct route
Hello,
There are a lot of reasons that you may have been given a different TEC route from the one you filed. Reasons can include filing the incorrect route for aircraft type or airport configuration. It would help to answer your question if you let us know what aircraft type you were in, what route you filed, and what route you were given. That will allow us to figure out what happened.
As a general rule yes TEC routes are mandatory. There are some cases when they aren't but those are generally rare.
While you always have the option to refuse a route I'd be curious to hear about a situation where that would apply for a TEC route. The only case I can think of is not be able to fly some of the overwater routes, but there are contingencies for that. If you are simply refusing a route to refuse the route you're going to have a hard time negotiating an alternative clearance that's acceptable to ATC.
There are a lot of reasons that you may have been given a different TEC route from the one you filed. Reasons can include filing the incorrect route for aircraft type or airport configuration. It would help to answer your question if you let us know what aircraft type you were in, what route you filed, and what route you were given. That will allow us to figure out what happened.
As a general rule yes TEC routes are mandatory. There are some cases when they aren't but those are generally rare.
While you always have the option to refuse a route I'd be curious to hear about a situation where that would apply for a TEC route. The only case I can think of is not be able to fly some of the overwater routes, but there are contingencies for that. If you are simply refusing a route to refuse the route you're going to have a hard time negotiating an alternative clearance that's acceptable to ATC.
Re: Picking the correct route
KSNA-KSAN B1990D Filed 13,000ft
Route I filed: (CSTN33) v23 OCN V165 SARGS
Route I was given: (CSTN19) depart hdg 175 degrees V25 PACIF V208 LAX118R CARDI MZB320R MZB
Hope that helps!
Route I filed: (CSTN33) v23 OCN V165 SARGS
Route I was given: (CSTN19) depart hdg 175 degrees V25 PACIF V208 LAX118R CARDI MZB320R MZB
Hope that helps!
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Peter Grey
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Re: Picking the correct route
It does.
Each TEC route is for a specific type of aircraft and a specific runway configuration.
The route you filed is for small piston aircraft (type Q and P) for when the San Diego airport is landing to the east.
As you were flying a turboprop aircraft (M type) and San Diego was landing west you were switched to the route that matches that criteria.
For each set of conditions there is only 1 acceptable TEC route. Normally routes which indicate a landing configuration to the east do not apply (as these configurations rarely happen).
I'd recommend reviewing the information available here: http://training.pilotedge.net/object/tec2.html for a more detailed overview on TEC routes.
Each TEC route is for a specific type of aircraft and a specific runway configuration.
The route you filed is for small piston aircraft (type Q and P) for when the San Diego airport is landing to the east.
As you were flying a turboprop aircraft (M type) and San Diego was landing west you were switched to the route that matches that criteria.
For each set of conditions there is only 1 acceptable TEC route. Normally routes which indicate a landing configuration to the east do not apply (as these configurations rarely happen).
I'd recommend reviewing the information available here: http://training.pilotedge.net/object/tec2.html for a more detailed overview on TEC routes.
Re: Picking the correct route
Great! Okay, makes sense now.
Thanks
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