How to do it better?

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Ryan B
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How to do it better?

Post by Ryan B »

At BUR I requested VFR FF to SNA, via the coliseum route. The controller asked if I was familiar with the Rose Bowl departure... I wasn't. He gave me SE bound departure approved, at or below 2500... etc etc

I departed off Ry 8... he radar IDed me (on tower - fine), then I asked to turn more SW towards the VNY125R for the coliseum route. He wasn't familiar with that (or had a brain fart)... so he changed me to socal dep. I quickly called them to tell my intent to fly basically west at this point (avoiding the LAX B), and he issued me the climb to 9500, and we both decided a westbound heading, then a right turn back to the 125R, remain clear of the bravo until he coordinated that. It all worked out and I was on my way eventually.

I thought I made it really clear on the ground at BUR (CD) what I wanted to do. Would BUR not be familiar with that routing in real life? That would really surprise me if that's the case. Anyway I think next time I'll ask for a westbound departure (with advisories still so I don't bonk the VNY D), then just ask for the transition with socal departure.

Any better ways I should be doing this?
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Anthony Santanastaso
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Re: How to do it better?

Post by Anthony Santanastaso »

Speaking for how I understand the procedure to be, you would simply receive a SW/W departure, and immediately after radar ID handed to SoCal who will work you as required into the Coliseum Route. It was an error that we resolved once within TRACON airspace. BUR would know about it.
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Re: How to do it better?

Post by Peter Grey »

Hello Ryan,

This was a mistake on the part of the local controller which has been resolved. Sorry about that. You can request the route with the CD controller at BUR.
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Re: How to do it better?

Post by RonCraighead »

Happens!

I've been sent wandering by ATC real world... They are not perfect either. THAT said, I make more mistakes than they do, RW and here.

Sounds like you handled it well. Really, it's not the mistakes that define us, it's how well we keep it together and sort things out.

Cheers,

Ron
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