Thought's on simulated emergencies etc.

pantherr47
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Thought's on simulated emergencies etc.

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Hello
I was thinking that a possible valuable exercise would be to work with ATC in various urgency and emergency scenarios. For example on-the-fly reroutes due to weather, icing, thunderstorm avoidance, minimum fuel, equipment failure etc. Of course exercising PIC authority would take precedence but working with ATC to obtain the most help can be a great asset. Fortunately, most pilots don't get the opportunity in the real world to practice these type of scenarios.

Thoughts?
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Absolutely. A couple of pilots have had random equipment failures in the sim, and have requested help from ATC. To date, I've seen alternator failures, bus failures, and engine failures. We haven't had a vacuum failure yet, as far as I know. We're always ready to go with a non-gyro vector for ya!

Feel free to simulate any emergency that you like.
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We've had a few bird strikes, a couple were during demos. Dunno if I have heard anyone squawk 7700 yet.
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I've lost an engine once and blew my flaps off on short final another time. The engine out emergency was a great experience....in regards to the communication with ATC.
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you can add a prop over speed to the list (x-plane). I experienced at about 600' agl right after take off. it continued to get worse.
i secured the engine and tried but could not feather the prop. But i have two questions.
1) I contacted ATC and requested an immediate return to KSNA, but i did not declare an emergency. I probably should still have informed ATC i was down an engine. But i was able to maintain altitude.
2) the POH for the Baron does not say to secure the engine. But to just fly it back to the runway. what is the best procedure to use for an over speed?
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In a twin I would guess that you would cut mixture to that engine and make a fast pattern that favors the remaining engine. I would think this because dealing with the bad engine would interfere with the number one rule of any emergency: Fly the plane!

Maybe if you had a copilot to mess with it then try to feather it or resolve the issue.

I just had an interesting mid air emergency the other day during beta night. Ripped the engine right out of my Malibu. Here is the link to that discussion on just how cool Xplanes can be: http://pilotedge.net/~vspro/phpBB3/view ... ?f=3&t=446
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Re: Thought's on simulated emergencies etc.

Post by Slamovits »

Hi! Let me ask you some questions...is it possible to tell the controller before flying, that we are going to simulate an emergency in some phase of the flight? Example, both engines quit, vacuum pump failure, and so...

Thanks!!
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Yes, you can let the controller know ahead of time if you like. Commercial users might not let ATC know on the radio, but we will give them other ways to communicate their plans ahead of time.
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just turn on birds and failures, and you'll have an emergency sooner or later :) Too bad you can;t hit the deer.
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Flew from San Diego Brown field to Victorville in a mooney in x-plane 9.72.(12Nov11) Was looking forward to the arc, 8-) but twice hit icing above 10,000. :| The second time resulted in rolling inverted and 7 seconds of tumbling outta altitude. :? Then my indicated airspeed dropped to zero for several minutes. :shock: I decided the arc wasn't as important as getting vectors to divert to Ontario. Thanks to whoever helped me in.
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