Heavy Metal VFR?

[Colin Payette]

How does PE feel about users flying heavy metal VFR, with "own navigation" and making visual approaches as long as the speed is under control under 10,000 ft?

Does this ever really happen? I have only been on one airliner below FL180 (LAX to SAN), but they were probably flying IFR and it seemed they were making some type of instrument approach.

[Keith Smith]

If you're simulating a wealthy owner taking a BBJ for a quick jaunt under Part 91, that would work!

You could fly between 10k and FL180, that would allow you to as fast as you like and still fly under VFR. Airliners do fly at lower altitudes on the TEC routes (ie, 11k from LAX-SAN), but they're always flying IFR (regardless of weather).

[Peter Grey]

***Warning: extreme nitcpiky pedantic rule note below***

that would allow you to as fast as you like and still fly under VFR

Not quite as fast as you want, FAR 91.817 requires us to keep it under mach 1. Obviously for most planes this is a non issue, but considering I've seen footage of KS flying a F4 through the grand canyon I figured I'd mention it.

[Colin Payette]

Ok, I'll put away the SR-71

[Keith Smith]

Peter.....tailwinds in the Grand Canyon can be considerable.

[Brandon Grchan]

Peter.....tailwinds in the Grand Canyon can be considerable.

They are also highly dependent upon your last meal

[Colin Payette]

Well, I did it. I guess a Learjet isn't really "heavy" but it is pretty wild compared to what I'm used to.

My passengers were all screaming and are filing lawsuits after that high & fast approach into PSP, but I did manage to land on the wheels.