KWHP Rwy 30 ODP; how to fly

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wmburns
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KWHP Rwy 30 ODP; how to fly

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I need some help understanding the correct way to fly the runway 30 ODP out of Whiteman (KWHP). From the d-TPP:
WHITEMAN (WHP)
ORIG 94034 (FAA)
TAKEOFF MINIMUMS: Rwys 12, 30, 2900-2 or std. with
a min. climb of 350' per NM to 4300.

DEPARTURE PROCEDURE: Rwy 12, climbing right turn
direct VNY VOR/DME. Rwy 30, climbing left turn
heading 260°. All aircraft climb to 4500 via VNY R-
325, then climbing left turn direct VNY VOR/DME
With my understanding I get. Take off Rwy 30 climb to 400 AGL. Left turn to heading 260. Easy.

As I'm flying a BE58/A continue on heading 260 until intercepting the VNY325R radial and turn left to fly the 325 radial to VNY.

Since a direction for the the hold isn't specified, a right hand holds starting at VNY is assumed. So the holding racetrack starts when passing over VNY. Continue to climb in hold until 4500 feet.

I'm confused about the final instruction.
then climbing left turn direct VNY VOR/DME
What exactly does this mean?

Follow on questions. When I fly this ODP I usually climb above 4500 feet while on the initial inbound VNY325R segment. Which would mean that I don't need any additional loops in order to climb higher. So am I free to continue on the filed route after crossing VNY?

Or.....am I supposed to climb to 4500. And upon reaching 4500 regardless where you are, turn left direct VNY?

Follow on question. When flying a holding pattern to gain altitude when does one leave the pattern? When at the holding fix or when the altitude is reached? I suspect that the hold is exited at the fix.

I'm sure there's something I'm missing. Thanks for any/all feedback.
Peter Grey
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Re: KWHP Rwy 30 ODP; how to fly

Post by Peter Grey »

Since a direction for the the hold isn't specified, a right hand holds starting at VNY is assumed. So the holding racetrack starts when passing over VNY. Continue to climb in hold until 4500 feet.
That's not quite right.

The ODP doesn't specify a hold so don't do one, instead once you hit VNY climb outbound on the VNY 325R. On the radial once you hit 4500' turn around back to VNY.
Follow on questions. When I fly this ODP I usually climb above 4500 feet while on the initial inbound VNY325R segment. Which would mean that I don't need any additional loops in order to climb higher. So am I free to continue on the filed route after crossing VNY?
Yes, if you hit 4500 before hitting VNY the first time you are all done. If you haven't hit 4500 by VNY then climb out on the 325R.
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Re: KWHP Rwy 30 ODP; how to fly

Post by rogers55 »

I think there is a misunderstanding here. Take off rwy 30, climbing left turn to 260, intercept the VNY 325 radial outbound, climb to 4,500, then proceed to the VNY VOR.
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